tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post2113265721572320629..comments2014-01-29T00:17:58.883-08:00Comments on A Caustic Vegan: Thoughts on Gary Francione’s HSUS Vegan TwititionDave Shishkoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18310682004065441049noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post-43572211287243947852010-02-01T10:03:34.132-08:002010-02-01T10:03:34.132-08:00FYI, i've added an 'UPDATE' to this po...FYI, i've added an 'UPDATE' to this posting. Curious and sloppy behaviour from Francione..Dave Shishkoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18310682004065441049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post-64838946932579794682010-01-20T23:05:17.438-08:002010-01-20T23:05:17.438-08:00Well said jeannie, thanks for posting!
Unfortunat...Well said jeannie, thanks for posting!<br /><br />Unfortunately it seems to me that the way GF 'progresses' an idea is through personal disagreement with an entity (a person or a group.) <br /><br />Here's what i see: a disagreement occurs, and then GF rationalizes some new 'idea' that then justifies a parting of ways, and that in turn creates a way to criticize said entity...of course, without it seeming like he's reacting to them 'personally'.<br /><br />It's a rather slimey way to go about things...and really crummy way to 'advance' a movement. It's definitely a pattern, however.<br /><br />I agree the petition would never result in HSUS doing anything...and knowing that, why promote such a campaign then? It's nothing but vacuous nonsense..no?<br /><br />Hopefully more free-thinkers will stumble on this entry as well..Dave Shishkoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18310682004065441049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post-8458336814884116772010-01-20T21:03:42.370-08:002010-01-20T21:03:42.370-08:001/ Francione will never admit he’s wrong on any co...1/ Francione will never admit he’s wrong on any count. He has peddled the same inflexible package of theories since the 90’s, and he hasn’t budged a progressive inch to keep up with the times. He’s really good at stealing slogans to create a brand for himself though. But only if he wants it. Go Nike. <br /><br />2/ It’s pointless for Francione to bother with this petition. And you needn’t worry that it will be a successful campaign. HSUS will never promote veganism (though I agree that if they did, it would be disastrous for the genuine animal rights movement). HSUS will never promote veganism because it wouldn’t put $$$ in their/Pacelle’s pockets to do so. And anyway, as you said yourself, petitions are virtually worthless. Relax, sit back, pop one open. That petition will never get off the ground. I sense that even Francione knows this. It’s probably just his way of making a statement. It’s all part of the brand. Go Nike. <br /><br />3/ “To disagree with GF can be a death sentence, so to speak.” No, it just means you have a mind of your own.<br /><br />4/ In any case, I do very much appreciate your rant (and your unapologetic honesty/integrity). I was smiling with glee as I read it. :-)jeannienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post-55890960419863844022010-01-20T13:37:22.653-08:002010-01-20T13:37:22.653-08:00Hi there, nice advertising for HSUS..and it certai...Hi there, nice advertising for HSUS..and it certainly doesn't say anything about what this posting is about.<br /><br />Curious what a "veg" is? What's the ethical position of a "veg"? What differentiates a "veg" from a "non-veg"?<br /><br />I really dislike the term "veg"..if that isn't obvious. ;)Dave Shishkoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18310682004065441049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3911717286150237073.post-53658123031676950142010-01-20T13:10:34.844-08:002010-01-20T13:10:34.844-08:00HSUS's free veg starter kit:
http://www.human...HSUS's free veg starter kit:<br /><br />http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/farm/gve.pdf<br /><br />Tons of free vegan recipes from HSUS:<br /><br />http://www.humanesociety.org/vegAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com